First dates that are not drinks.

Short, cheap, and with something to do. Those three properties matter more than the specific idea.

Drinks became the default because it is easy to suggest, not because it works. It is expensive, open ended, hard to leave, usually too loud for conversation, and it puts alcohol into the one situation where you most want your judgement intact.

What actually makes a first date work

  1. 1
    A natural end. An hour with a built in finish is better than an open evening. It removes the worst part of a bad date and makes a good one feel like it ended too soon, which is exactly what you want.
  2. 2
    Something to do or look at. Silence is only awkward when there is nothing else happening. An activity converts a pause into a comfortable one.
  3. 3
    Cheap. Expense creates obligation on one side and pressure on the other, and it makes leaving early feel rude.
  4. 4
    Public, with your own way home. Non negotiable, whoever you are.

The list

Best for talking

Best if you get nervous

Best if you both like being outside

Worth avoiding on a first date

The line that makes any of these easy. "There is a good coffee place near the market, are you free Thursday at seven?" One option, a real day, somewhere public. Specific proposals get accepted; vague ones get vague answers.

Where Kindred fits

Kindred matches you on what you actually like doing, so the obvious plan is usually the thing you already have in common rather than the default drink. On day 7 the app asks both of you for a plan with a date, a place and a time, so nobody has to be the one who raises it.

Common questions

What is a good first date that is not drinks?

Coffee, a walk somewhere specific, breakfast or lunch, a gallery, a market, or anything mildly ridiculous like mini golf or bowling. What matters more than the specific idea is that it is short, cheap, has something to do, and has a natural end point.

How long should a first date be?

About an hour, with a built in finish. A short date with a natural end limits the damage of a bad one and leaves a good one feeling like it stopped too soon, which is a much better outcome than an open ended evening that runs out of energy.

What should you avoid on a first date?

The cinema, since two hours of not talking is not a date; expensive dinners, which are long and hard to leave; anywhere loud enough that you cannot hear each other; and either person's home. Meeting in public with your own way home is the baseline regardless of who you are.

Kindred asks you to make the plan.

On day 7 the app prompts both of you for a date, a place and a time. Join the launch list and you get Kindred free for good, plus three months of Kindred+.

What are you after? (optional)

One email on launch day. Nothing else, ever.

You are on the list. Watch your inbox on launch day.

Before you meet anybody

Kindred does not run background checks and does not verify that anyone is who they say they are. No app does, whatever it implies. Meet somewhere public the first few times, tell someone where you are going, sort out your own way home, and never send anyone money. The safety section is honest about exactly what we do and what we cannot do.